The Great Shift
an interview with Rev. Fred Sterling
Rev. Fred Sterling is Director and Head
Pastor of the Honolulu Church of Light. His journey into truth,
trust and passion occurred over 10 years ago and today his life
is filled with this adventure.
As you will see throughout the
interview, Fred is involved in many things. Many of which are
combined into Prophecy 2000 - a multi media presentation that
encompasses his new book "Kirael: The Great Shift", a CD
released by Dream Catchers (each song representing a chapter of
his book), his healing ability and the enlightening energy of
Kirael (channeled by Fred). Put these altogether into a
spiritual/metaphysical, channeling, healing, musical event and
you can begin to understand this truly delightful man.
Catching Fred alone with a few spare minutes is nearly
impossible, as the following interview shows. We had arranged a
private chat room on the Internet to conduct this long distance
interview. Even out there in cyberspace, we had people popping
in. And as you will see in the interview, I was particularly
grateful for the presence of Gerald Hugh de Heer.
acronym LFAS used throughout this interview refers to the Low
Frequency Acoustic Sound testing by the US Navy. LFAS generates
sounds that are reported to be 10,000 times the sound of a 747
taking off. Sound, at this volume, can be fatal to any living
A: Aaron Thunder Hart / FS: Fred Sterling / GH: Gerald
Hugh de Heer
A: Fred, you're a healer, trance channel,
minister, author, environmentalist, and a world activist. Just
about every time I sign on to the Internet, there's something
new staring at me that shows you've been busy. Your latest
endeavor, stopping the insidious LFAS testing off the shores of
Hawaii and healing the whales, dolphins, and other marine life
that have suffered from it, has ignited a million people into a
beautiful synchronized action that has stopped the testing, and
created an awesome wave of healing energy that crossed multiple
species barriers. As a physical demonstration of what a powerful
earth changing force focused love can be, this has done nothing
short of bringing about a new hope for humanity. What have you
been up to that isn't so earth changing? Let me re-phrase that…
Hmm… what were you doing earlier today?
FS: Well, I've
(been) preparing for my guest appearance at the San Francisco
Whole Life Expo. I believe the Whole Life Expo engagement is
going to be a great opportunity to bring Light to the
mainstream. I'll be talking about the Prophecies of the New
Millennium, and sharing from my new book, “Kirael: The Great
Shift”. And I hope this is alright, I will be sharing with the
audience the great reception I experienced in Las Vegas -
especially from the people at Spiritual Endeavors.
Thank you. I was indeed privileged to be present at the Mirage
for the grand beginning of your Prophecy 2000 tour. I know that
this tour will take you all across the country, and I wouldn't
be a bit surprised if the next time we get together on the
Internet, you'll be talking from Europe or Australia. Will you
have many opportunities to return home to your beautiful Hawaii
in between engagements?
FS: Some. I will be home for the
Prophecy 2000 event here in Honolulu on April 29th at the Ala
A: So even when you're home, you're working.
May your energy be as limitless as the message you bear! Fred, I
know you think of yourself first and foremost as a healer. Yet I
believe your book, "Kirael: The Great Shift" is going to make
you more known as an author. How is this new role setting with
FS: Sometimes I find it overwhelming - as people
have taken to the message so strongly. I most assuredly am a
healer foremost, yet now I am coming to the clarity that by
being called an author, this affords me the opportunity to do
healing on a global basis.
A: And you certainly haven't
wasted any time here! The global effort you mounted to stop the LAFS testing was phenomenal. I know that there were many others
involved, and some members of Greenpeace were even putting their
life and health at risk, but it was the synchronized effort of
love and healing which you organized that actually brought those
destructive tests to an end.
FS: I participated in it,
however it was the combined energy of almost a million people,
in all parts of the world, synchronized and focused on a
singular cause that brought the results.
A: Fred, you're
much too humble!
[GH pops into the private chat room] Hi
Fred, Hi Simon, Hi Carol.
A: Hi Gerald. Help me out
here... Fred is being much too humble.
GH: Fred is a
A: We were talking about stopping the LFAS
testing and his role in it.
GH: As an observer to the
event in Las Vegas, and having read some of the messages that
have come in from all over the world, and seeing the actual
physical results back here in Hawaii, I would have to say that
Fred was most instrumental.
A: Okay Fred, I've got an
FS: Okay. What we did was to organize
an event. We set a specific time in which participants would
focus their love and healing energy - by chanting Om - and
direct that energy towards stopping the underwater LFAS testing
and healing the damage caused by it… especially the damage
afflicted to the whales and dolphins and other marine life.
There were many involved in spreading the word - and getting
still others involved - in what came to be known as the "Global
Oming". On the day of the Oming, I was at the Mirage in Las
Vegas preparing for the Prophecy 2000 appearance later that
evening, so I participated - along with others - from the
dolphin habitat at the Mirage. When we arrived at the habitat,
we discovered that one of the dolphins there happened to be ill
and in need of healing as well.
A: So you, and other
participants, I would guess the band, just started Oming at the
habitat? I'm sorry I missed that!
FS: It was beautiful.
A: And what was the results of the Global Om?
Well, the ship which the Navy used for the testing returned to
port soon after the Global Oming event.
GH: And with the
ship returning to port the LFAS testing ended almost one month
ahead of schedule. It has not left port since.
and we've received mail from people around the world, sharing
their healing experiences during the oming. Many have expressed
an overwhelming feeling of love that came over them during the
GH/ Whales not normally seen in Hawaiian waters have
been sighted this season; There are reports of Orcas, Sperm,
Pigmy, and Fin Whales. According to the March 30, 1998 Edition
of the Honolulu Advertiser, these sightings are "unusual" as
these species are not "normally" seen in this part of the world.
A: Thank you Gerald, I'm glad you're here. So Fred's
efforts in this area have had global implications spanning
multiple species, including humanity, of course, and he's acting
like it's all in a days work.
FS: That's because in truth
it is. It is my fortune to have beautiful people around the
world, like yourself, that know how important it is for the
world to understand that together we all face extreme changing
times. It is only through the collective consciousness that we
can return to heart energy. If I am a part of that then so be
A: If you are a part of that? Perhaps a major player
would be a more accurate term.
But let's talk about your
book… I've read through The Great Shift and have found it to be
material that desperately needs to be out there. If everyone had
access to it, the world would be a different place. You know,
there's hundreds of books out there that talk about the coming
shift. Your whole book is about the present. I think that's a
powerful statement in itself. Many people are still in denial
FS: Good point. One of our greatest concerns is
trying to show the world that we are already immersed in the
Global Shift. All one needs to do is read their daily newspaper
and see the horrendous happenings around the world. It is time
that we no longer look to someone else in correcting the ills of
Mother Earth and begin to look within the Self.
agree. Your approach is refreshing. When you were speaking at
the Mirage, and I'm talking about you speaking, not Kirael, you
mentioned the recent shootings by the young boys. I think that
must have made headlines all over the country. Yet you did not
draw any conclusions about the incident; you merely asked the
people to think about it… not to forget it… not to let it slip
by. Most teachers would have taken the opportunity for a long
discourse to expand upon their views… or suggest a cause and
cure for it.
FS: Exactly! My mission is not to give the
answer - but moreover to have each person be able to
individualize their journey. That way the masses are empowered.
This incident was very tragic and each had to heal a part of
self to help assure that there is an answer to all tragedy.
A: And what would the world be like with the masses
FS: Empowered from the space of love -
miracles happen. As I said at the Mirage, my belief is that
Jesus Christ came to the this earth plane to teach two basic
principles and they are love and healing. If the world should
lean heavily towards this message then things like this shooting
incident can be averted. You know, as people approached me later
that evening, many asked how I would deal with the children and
the parents. Instead, of answering, I asked each person what
they learned from this incident? I believe there were a few who
were disappointed because I had no input on the vast array of
punishments suggested for the boys. In other cases I was very
pleasantly surprised to hear that they had understood completely
- that there was a realization - that they understood just how
important is was for them to talk to and communicate with their
own children. I can not emphasize that enough. Talk to your
children! Simon, can you imagine the change it would bring to
our earth, if each parent would communicate from their heart to
A: I dream of that day! I dream of the
day when we can all talk to one another that way. This to me is
what sets you apart form many other teachers, Fred. You, like
all great teachers - or maybe I should rephrase that to all real
teachers - You are not offering your answers. Instead you are
encouraging people to think, and come up with their own. I have
encouraging others to think for themselves a most
difficult - but necessary - task.
FS: I agree. Yet as I
journey through this, I am afforded the ability to heal Self. My
belief is simple. When we as individuals begin to concern
ourselves with this healing, Mother Earth receives a tiny bit of
healing for Herself.
A: And where does karma fit in the
FS: Ah! The great school house of life!
If it is true that we come to this earth plane to experience all
that can be experienced, then we must be prepared to learn from
what we perceive as mistakes, and use every part of this
beautiful journey to fulfill our lesson plan.
would you say your personal lesson plan is?
FS: We all
have predominantly the same lesson plan. That is to evolve back
into the Creator's light. On my individual plan, I believe part
of my mission is to awaken myself into the light so brightly,
that those seeking their own truth can feel safe in sharing the
A: There are some who would say, "Fred, it's easy
for you. After all, you have Kirael.
FS: Yes, there are
some who would say that. And in truth, they would be partly
correct. Yet, and I know you would understand this, although
being with Kirael has led me to a path filled with excitement,
it is a path filled with a multiplicity of demands and
A: I understand only too well. People think
that because you have a special relationship with a non-physical
being, life becomes a bed of roses. But these great non-physical
beings only do for us what we hope to accomplish with others -
stretch us beyond our presently accepted limits. I believe I
told you this, but when Kirael was doing that live channeling on
the internet, I had the most wonderful experience. I felt
Kirael's presence here in the room… thousands of miles away from
where you were. And I must comment that it is very great indeed.
Awesome, to say the least. How do you ever manage to hold on to
it? Has this created one of those challenges for you?
FS: Kirael's energy was never meant to be held… only to be
experienced. In truth, most all who have read the book share
your feelings. When more time is allowed, I would love to share
some of the comments I receive from across the country... such
as children holding the book in times of stress… and an older
Japanese lady who awoke in the night suffering tightness in her
chest and somehow was led to just hold Kirael's book against
her… and was instantly relieved.
A: I can relate. How do
you explain this?
FS: I am not at this time ready to
explain this phenomenon - only that I know it is truth.
A: I can relate to that, too. There is much that can not be
explained at this time because we communicate through an
extremely limited language with no words for the deeper and
greater concepts. Explaining Kirael's energy to others is way
beyond my ability with the spoken language… I think one must
communicate such things through the language of the heart… or it
must be experienced… to be truly understood - as yours also. And
people in Las Vegas will be extended that opportunity again…
soon. Fred, would you like to let everyone know what might be in
store for them during your upcoming visit?
you. I am so excited to let people know of my next visit to your
wonderful city of lights, and the events that will be shared at
Spiritual Endeavors. First of all, I would like to point out
that I will not be there alone. I will be sharing the stage with
Kirael and our topic at the Gathering on May 19 will be "The
Female Energies that Surrounded Christ". We just had a similar
event here in Honolulu and the place was packed! He will also -
I am sure - speak about the Galactic connection so prominent in
your area. These are the topics that are planed… and of course,
the good thing about sharing the stage with Kirael is that he
always knows who is in the audience and somehow always seems to
speak directly into their heart.
Then… I believe we're going
to be doing a Signature Cell healing class. This is a class that
not only teaches how to heal, but moreover how to heal Self. I
believe you will be publishing a more detailed description of
that. We will also be doing private Fred / Kirael sessions for
two days during my stay. Is it okay if people contact you about
A: Of course.
FS: Mostly, I'll be
experiencing the thrill of the warm reception I experienced when
I was last in your city…and I hope together we can begin a new
and lasting healing relationship for all.
A: I'm looking
forward to that! Fred, I know time is at a premium for you, and
Carol has just let me know that she can't push back your
schedule any further, so I'll just ask if there's anything you
would like to add?
FS: Simon, I just got the same
message. But in answer to your question, your questioning has
allowed me the opportunity to open my heart and feel free. I
could never ask for more.
A: Fred, as always, you have been
FS: As you. Aloha is a word we use here in
the islands that has multiple meanings. Yet in this case, it is
meant to convey my love and appreciation for the opportunity you
have presented to share our message.
"Aloha" my friend.
About The Author
About The Author
Rev. Fred Sterling / Kirael 's first book, "The Great Shift" has
been available only a short time and and the second is already
in production. Although it will not become available to the
general public until early 1999, Fred shares these few pages
from it's introduction. Fred Sterling, Honolulu Church of Light
575-A Cooke Street Honolulu, Hawaii 96813 Telephone:
Mission Statement: To prepare for the Shift in
consciousness by loving all, beginning with sharing and healing