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 A Conversation with...
I. Aaron Thunder Hart
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
{All italics in
brackets represent the interviewers' thoughts or personal comments.}
IATH ...Another is the outright foolishness!
Look, John. {He dug around in his pocket and finally came up with a small piece of lint
fuzz.}
I know that this looks like ordinary laundry lint, but do you have any
idea of what this really is? {I shook my head no. His voice became almost a whisper, yet
carried the excitement of telling a forbidden secret.} Well, I'll tell you. This is no
ordinary lint. This is space lint. You see, I've been meeting with these viral beings from
the Andromida Strain and they've shown me the secret of collecting space lint. And I
wouldn't lie to you, brother - you don't mind if I call you brother, brother; we'll all the
same God you know; and you being divine, you'd know if I was lying to you anyway - this
space lint cures everything from cancer to verbal diarrhea. Now I normally sell this
panacea for all your problems for only $99.99 - but I've decided that I'm going to do my
part for humanity. I'm going to give it away - for the unbelievable price of... not $69.99,
no, not even $59.99, but... And my accountant is telling me I'll go broke in a hurry.... just
$49.99!!! (Plus $25.00 shipping and handling, of course.) And I'll tell you John, your
whole life is going to change. I'm talking instant enlightenment here! Think of it - no
more calling Lois and Clark's Psychic Hot Line for your lucky numbers. You'll win the
lottery! Think of all the money you're going to save! Better yet, think of all the ways
you can use that money to help your less fortunate brothers! John, you owe it to yourself;
think of how much karma you can burn off just like that! {He snapped his fingers.}
{I noticed that the couple in the next booth was openly ease dropping
at this point. It seemed to me, judging by the look on their faces, they were calculating
whether or not they had enough cash between them to take him up on his offer.
Aaron noticed it too, and we both started laughing.}
JP You missed your calling in life.
IATH I don't think so, John. I really do feel like I've
found it, and I don't think that I can change it.
JP Oh, I don't know. I get the feeling you can do anything
that you set your mind to.
IATH I can. You can too, John. But you missed the point; I
don't want to change it. We all can do what ever it is we set our mind to. We are by
nature all totally powerful spiritual beings. The only limitations we experience are those
that we have placed upon ourselves. But let's get back to the New Age thing.
JP Okay. But I believe you just made another New Age
statement.
IATH No, John. That we are limitless by nature is no more New
Age than what I said before, that we all have a place of inner knowing - and that place
inside us is all powerful as well, by the way.
Those concepts have been around as long as man has been on this planet,
John. And poets, saints, and sages throughout all the ages have tried to get us to
understand them. I can take you to any public library and show you these same very same
statements by Ralph Waldo Emerson, St. Augustine, Shakespeare, Thorton Wilder, Jesus,
Buddha, Plato, Aristotle, Homer, and even in the oldest written records of mankind, The
Vedas.
These understandings are as old as recorded history - and I’d feel
quite comfortable betting the rest of eternity that they’re much older than that,
too. There's nothing at all new about them. Except perhaps, that maybe... just
maybe...we're finally beginning to return to understanding them a little better than we
have been.
So you see, I'm not opposed to the New Age Movement, or any other
movement for that matter - if that movement helps bring about a better understanding of
the age old truths. It's just that "Truth for Sale" and "I've got a corner
on truth" are concepts that really turn my stomach.
Now, I believe we were talking about the earth changes lecture, weren't
we?
JP Well, we started on that, and you were talking about
how you put the pieces of the puzzle together, but somehow I got the impression that you
were talking about more than that also.
IATH That was quite observant of you, John. On one level I
was answering your question on how I relate to understanding the earth changes, but on
another, I was explaining to your readers how I started... and this is so simple, it can
be applied and utilized by anybody... how I began to understand the big picture, and find
my own inner place of knowing.
Do you want to go back to that... or shall we just forge ahead?
JP Let's forge ahead, after we go back. I'd really like to
hear about that.
IATH Okay. It all boils down to one word, John. Parables!
JP Huh?
IATH Parables... you know, like in the bible?
JP Yeah, I know what The Parables are. I just can't see
the connection between the parables and the earth changes.
IATH Parables, John; not The Parables. One word; not
two.
JP {Sarcastically.} Okay, so sue me for the extra
three letters and the capitol T. Not The Parables. But I still don't understand.
IATH Okay, John. A parable is basically a story used to
convey in more simplistic terms, a quite complicated, deep, or difficult to understand
concept. Think of The Parables; was Jesus really talking about sheep, or wheat and chaff?
Or was it something else?
JP Something else, of course.
IATH Now. Pick a parable that you’re familiar with -
and don’t tell me what it is.
JP Okay, I’ve got one.
IATH Now in your mind, go back to when you first heard, or
learned about it. And you don’t have to tell me about it - this isn’t a bible
quiz.
JP Huh... Okay... I’ve got it.
IATH Now this is very important - take your time. Don’t
answer until you have actually thought about it - don’t just play back the mental
tape with the recorded imprint of what you were taught... Does that parable mean the same
thing to you now?
JP Huh... ... ... No! When I actually think about it, it
seems to have taken on quite a different meaning than what I thought as a boy.
It’s vaguely along the same line, but I seem to have a much deeper understanding of
the concept behind it.
IATH And parables are like that. They can be interpreted on
many different levels. The deeper you search for the meaning, the deeper the meaning you
will find. But even on the most superficial levels, there is still a meaning for the
superficial minds.
Have you ever read Genesis?
JP The first book in the Bible? {He nodded.} As
an adult... about half of it. I just couldn’t get into the whole Adam and Eve thing
anymore, so I stopped.
IATH Yeah, me too. But let me ask you this, John. How do you
think Moses wrote it?
JP I guess the accepted thought is that God dictated it to
him... and I guess the more fundamentalist tendencies one has... the more that they
believe that it was dictated word for word. Myself, I don’t know. I personally
don’t think it was dictated,... so... I guess it was a vision of some sort... and
then he wrote it down.
IATH I’ll buy that. I’ve never liked the term
"channeled" information - I only use it for the lack of a better word...
JP Channeled? You mean...? Well, I’ve never thought
of... Do you think...?
IATH Now calm down, John. I don’t like that term
either. It’s just that... well, I can’t seem to think of another word that will
get the concept across in today’s language. I know that channeling has taken on a lot
of what I consider to be questionable meanings lately.
JP
No, it’s not that! It’s just... I’ve
never put that together before. I guess that not only Moses, but a lot of the prophets
were just that - what we would call today - psychics, mediums, and
channelers.
IATH I think so. And in
Bree's and my experiences in
channeling, we are often presented with concepts and symbols that are quite difficult to
put into spoken words. The understanding is there... but no words to express it
accurately. So sometimes we come back with information that can only be expressed in...
parables.
JP And Moses... explained what he saw and experienced in
the only way that the language of the day allowed.... and it’s a parable! This is
wonderful. It sheds a whole new light on, well, a lot of things! I mean...
IATH It’s only an opinion; it’s only the way that
I look at things.
JP Yeah. But gee... it makes so much sense!
IATH For me. And maybe for you, too. But it’s up to
each individual to decide for themselves. Take our friend James, the gentleman giving the
lecture this evening; he is of a different opinion. He spoke of a vision he had. I feel
that it was a true and genuine precognitive experience for him. But yet, I don’t
agree with him at all.
JP You’re talking about the earth changes
prediction... or channeling... or vision... he spoke of - in which he saw the earth’s
rotation stopping and then reversing and spinning the other way?
IATH Exactly. I personally think that hell will freeze over
before that happens.
JP But you said that you felt it was a true precognitive
vision!
IATH I do. But it is also my opinion that he, like many
other gifted psychics, mediums, channelers, visionaries - whatever you choose to call them
- have legitimate gifts, yet do not truly understand the gifts themselves. I believe that
the picture he perceived was exactly what was presented to him. And I believe that he did
a wonderful job of bringing back that picture as accurately as possible. And the way he
presented it was as it should be - he basically said, "This is what is right for me;
take it or leave it - as you wish".
JP I’m missing something here. It seems like
you’re speaking in riddles.
IATH Parables, John. Not riddles. It was a parable. A
simplistic representation of a complicated concept. That concept, in my opinion, was that
for eons the earth has been headed in a certain direction; (rotation) that direction could
be thought of as materialism, selfishness, greed, war, away from the source - there’s
a thousand ways to say it. And I believe that that direction (again symbolized by the
direction of the rotation) is shortly going to change... reverse. In other words... the
picture, the vision, the experience was legitimately real and true. But the concept was
conveyed to him as a visual parable.
I feel that there are many gifted people out there relaying their
legitimate experiences - not only concerning the earth changes, but all facets of
spirituality - that are unmeaningfully creating confusion. That is not to say that I feel
that way about all of them. But one has to be careful. Perhaps that is the role these
people play in the big picture; perhaps they are serving as teachers in ways that they
themselves do not understand - that of teaching that one must always look for the truth
within themselves. And perhaps they also bring home the point that there is a difference
between being psychic and being wise.
Due
to its length, this submission has been posted in three segments. This is
the end of part 2 - Click here for part 3.
©1997 Spiritual Endeavors
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